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Dutch seize huge shipment of illegal 'fatbikes' that qualify as mopeds

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Rebecca Morley

Rebecca has been in cycling journalism since 2018. She started out at trade title BikeBiz and still contributes features to its monthly magazine, and was also named one of Cycling UK's 100 Women in Cycling 2019.

7 comments

2 months 3 weeks ago

We need a crackdown on illegal electric mopeds and motorcycles in the UK. The rules on e-bikes are pretty simple.

2 months 3 weeks ago

@andystow

I see your point. Yet the law is well versed in navigating such ambiguities. It is abundantly clear that e-scooters and e-motorbikes are not bought for use on private land, although they could be. Must the law be such an ass that it is bamboozled by that possibility, and blinded to what is going on? It is not beyond wit that genuine private use (e-bike racing series?) could be worked around with registration etc, whilst still banning the general sale of these machines.

 

If racing carts became a problem on the roads, I'm sure they'd find a swift solution.

2 months 3 weeks ago

@Sriracha - only "ebikes", or anything else that could potentially be used on the roads.

These, for instance, are nowhere near street legal, but obviously fine on private land. Presumably they're for sale somewhere.

https://www.motorsportuk.org/get-started/types-of-motor-sport/karting/

2 months 3 weeks ago

The law needs to be joined-up. It should be illegal to sell products which are illegal to use. The idea that they are sold for private use on private land is just a lazy delusion.

2 months 3 weeks ago

Agreed - these need clearing off the streets. Same with the illegals that use them. Electric mopeds, plain and simple. 

Perhaps force retailers to share buyers details, so plod can proactivley contact them and issue a warning, that will have 'some' impact. Just ban and confiscate on-sight is a better option ...for both!

2 months 3 weeks ago

this is interesting, as I understand it in the UK these things are perfectly legal to import and own, its only when they are used on the road network that offences are commited. So the importers and retailers can absolve themselves of any responsibility for how they are used. Is it different in NL or is someone going to get a big apology and compensation after a long court case.

 

2 months 3 weeks ago

Good, nw why can't UK authorities do the same?